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Command 1

1 Reg Kn(F) CinC
4 Reg Bw(O)
4 Reg Bw(I)
6 Reg Sp(I)
3 Reg Ps(O)
2 Reg LH(F) Vardariots
EEs 18.5/6.5

Command 2

1 Reg Kn(F) SG
5 Reg Kn(O) Latinikon
9 Irr LH(F) Scythion
2 Reg LH(S) Turcopoles
6 Bg(I)
EEs 17/6

Command 3

1 mtd Bd(O) SG
4 mtd Bd(O) Varangians
5 Reg Kn(F)
8 Reg Ps(O)
4 Irr LH(F)
1 Reg LH(S)
EEs 19/6.5
Total EEs 54.5/27.
(Cmds 2 & 3 are the same size for initial deployment).

Notes: This list is based on an army used by Nick Wade.

Later Crusader 1140 AD

Fulk of Anjou and the Atabeg of Damascus (Muin ad Din) allied in 1140 to confront Zanghid aggression. Robert de Craon "Burgundius" was the Master of the Templars and a supporter of Fulk. Raymond of Poitiers was the Prince of Antioch but native-French. He was also a supporter of Fulk.

Command 1

Fulk of Anjou Irr Kn(F) CinC
6 Irr Kn(F) Milites
4 Mounted Reg Bw(O) Crossbowmen
8 Irr Bw(I) Maronites
2 Italian Gal(F) Galleys
8 Bg(I)
19 EE / BP 7

Command 2

Raymond of Poitiers Irr Kn(F) Sub
1 Reg Sp(O) Sergeant
14 Irr Sp(I) Sergeants
12 Irr Bw(O) Crossbowmen
28 EE / BP 10

Command 3

Robert de Craon Reg Kn(F) Templar Sub
3 Irr Cv(O) Turcopoles
6 Reg Sp(O) Sergeants
10 EE / BP 4

Command 4

Muin ad-Din Reg Cv(S) Ally
1 Reg Cv(O) Ghulams
2 Irr Cv(O) Syrians
3 Irr LH(S) Turkmens
3 Irr LH(O) Bedouins
10 EE / BP 4

The L Crusaders has several inherent problems. The army has low aggression, no skirmishers- and its main combat troops are not agile.

This design tries to use a combination of size and 4 PIP dice to offset the low aggression and lack of agility. The size requirement meant a pre-1150 option, with few military order components, was best.

The army tries to compensate for the lack of light troops with the Syrian ally and the abundant Bw.

Raymond's command (2) is deployed first, with Raymond dismounted as a Sp or Bd. If Sp, he can be paired with the Sp(O) Sergeant. On foot he is not subject to impetousity. Muin ad-Din takes up a skirmishing position next to Raymond. Fulk and Robert deploy in reserve. All the Irr Kn are with Fulk- who can use his free CinC PIP to control them.

The reserves can be then readily redeployed to counter threats/exploit opportunities.

In the first outing of this army, it cleaned up an Andalusian opponent without loss.

Early Hungarian, post 1150 AD

This army was used by Mike Campbell of DBM list fame

Command 1

CinC Irreg Kn(O)
2 Hungarian nobles Irr Kn(O)
4 Saxon Irr Kn(O)
2 Hospitaller Reg Kn(S)
3 Szekely Irr LH(S)
6 Skirmisher Irr LH(F)
1 Carroccio Irr WWg(I)
6 Bg
20 Equivalent Elements

Command 2

Sub Irr Cv(S)
2 Gentry Irr Cv(S)
3 Croat Irr Cv(O)
4 Szekely Irr LH(S)
9 Skirmisher Irr LH(F)
19 Equivalent Elements

Command 3

Sub Irr Cv(S)
6 Gentry Irr Cv(S)
3 Szekely Irr LH(S)
9 Skirmisher Irr LH(F)
19 Equivalent Elements

Cilician Armenian, mid 13th Century

This army was used by US gamer Pat Lewis of DBM list fame

Command 1

CinC Irreg Kn(F)
6 Armenian Cavalry Irr Kn(F)
12 Armenian Foot Irr Sp(I)
4 Armenian archers Irr Ps(O)
4 Armenian archers Irr Bw(O)
25 Equivalent Elements

Command 2

Sub Irr Kn(F)
6 Armenian Cavalry Irr Kn(F)
3 Bedouin cavalry Irr LH(O)
12 Armenian Foot Irr Sp(I)
5 Armenian archers Irr Ps(O)
24.5 Equivalent Elements

Command 3

Sub Irr Kn(F)
5 Armenian Cavalry
2 'disguised' Armenian Irr LH(F)
12 Armenian Foot Irr Ax(O)
6 Armenian archers Irr Bw(O)
26 Equivalent Elements

NOTES:
Army has 399 points, its total equivalent elements = 75.5 and the army Break Point is 37.75.The disguised Armenian LH were dressed as Mongols.

"You have to break two commands to break the army and
considering their size that takes a while. The support troops are tough enough that they can be used to apply extra pressure on the enemy. Once the knights are in combat you can use most of your pips to manuever the supports into position to apply that extra pressure."- Pat Lewis.

Georgians, early 12th Century

This army was used by US gamer Steve Sykes of DBM list fame

Command 1

CinC Irreg Kn(F)
7 Georgian Cavalry Irr Kn(F)
2 Georgian retainers Irr LH(F)
2 Ossetians Irr LH(S)
12 Georgian spearmen Irr Sp(I)
4 Georgian archers Irr Bw(O)
28 Equivalent Elements

Command 2

Sub Irr Kn(F)
3 Georgian Cavalry Irr Kn(F)
3 Ossetians Irr LH(S)
6 Georgian archers Irr Bw(O)
1 Georgian archers Irr Ps(O)
12.5 Equivalent Elements

Command 3

Sub Irr Kn(F)
3 Georgian Cavalry Irr Kn(F)
4 Georgian Retainers Irr LH(F)
2 Irr LH(S)
5 Javelinmen Irr Ps(S)
12.5 Equivalent Elements

Command 4

Cuman Sub Irr Cv(O)
1 Cuman Irr Cv(O)
10 Irr Cuman LH(F)
1 Javelinmen Irr Ps(S)
12.5 Equivalent Elements

NOTES:

"The Bw(O) are quite useful rough going troops; using the two groups together to give a block of 10 with 2 commands PIPs sometimes works. The Irr Ps(S) give you a bit of cover for difficult going. The three knight commands can lose all their Kn without breaking." - Steve Sykes.

Trapezuntine Byzantine - 1261 AD.

This list is reproduced with the permission of Socrates from the DBM-list.

Command 1

1 C-in-C RegCv(O) Manouel the First the Great Komnenos
5 Trapezuntine stratiotai lancers RegCv(O)
8 Trapezuntine archers RegBw(O)
2 Turks IrrLH(S)
4 Trapezuntine or mercenary spearmen RegSp(I)
Cost: 138 AP, elements: 20, EE: 20, demor: -7

Command 2

1 Sub-general RegCv(O) Amytzarantoi
6 Trapezuntine Laz or Tzan tribal infantry-archers IrrPs(O)
6 Trapezuntine Laz or Tzan tribal infantry-spearmen IrrAx(O)
2 Alans IrrLH(S)
8 Trapezuntine archers RegBw(O)
8 Baggages IrrBg(I)
Cost: 112, elements: 31, EE: 20, demor: -7

Command 3

1 Sub-general IrrLH(S) Scholarioi
9 Trapezuntine Laz or Tzan horse archers IrrLH(S)
Cost: 80, elements: 10, EE: 10, demor: -4

Command 4 (Georgian allies but with a Cuman general)

1 Ally general-Cuman IrrCv(S)
4 Regraded Georgian aznauri IrrCv(O)
7 Cumans IrrLH(F)
Cost: 70, elements: 12, EE: 12, demor: -4

TOTALS
Cost: 400, elements: 73, EE: 62, demor: -31

NOTES:
"As a defender, I place my baggages next to the compulsory WW. As an attacker, I place my baggages in the centre. I place my troops in columns, outer columns the Bws, inner columns the Cv (but not in the centre, always at my best covered flank sector all of them). I use the Ax and Ps to hold or capture RGo or DifGo.
The only troops I place frontally are the LH units. Then I pin down the enemy's strong soldiers and I attack fast with all of my troops to his weak command. However, the things are difficult, if the battle takes long".
-- Socrates

Christian Armies