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Conversations That Count , Ngā Kōrero Whai Take

Tackling today’s big issues with Aotearoa’s leading thinkers and doers in thought-provoking kōrero that empowers Kiwis to have the conversations that count.

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Thought-provoking perspectives on the issues shaping Aotearoa and te ao whānui

Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take is a mixed media, podcast, editorial and event series brought to you by Massey University in partnership with The Spinoff. It provides a platform for the university and community experts to share their thoughts on how to overcome some of New Zealand’s biggest challenges.

Season 3

Listen to season 3 of Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take via The Spinoff.

Aotearoa has a literacy problem. How can we fix it?

Stacey Morrison is joined by Dr Christine Braid and Te Kura o Takaro co-principals Helena Baker and Josie Woon for a kōrero about the state of literacy in Aotearoa.

Season 2

Listen to season 2 of Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take via The Spinoff.

What does an inclusive language sound like?

In this first episode of our second season, host Stacey Morrison is joined by Julia de Bres (senior lecturer in linguistics, Massey University) and Te Ahi Wi-Hongi (Gender Minorities Aotearoa).

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Can local knowledge lead our climate action?

Host Stacey Morrison is joined by Dr Libby Liggins (senior lecturer in ecology, Massey University) and Kera Sherwood O'Regan for a kōrero around climate change.

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Making sense of money

In this episode, Stacey Morrison is joined by Dr Pushpa Wood and Kendall Flutey as we seek to find out how deep our collective knowledge of our financial system actually goes.

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The future of food supply

For the final episode in the second season of Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take, we examine the practices and processes that govern our modern food systems, from paddock to plate (and often, to the world)

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Season 1

Listen to season 1 of Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take via The Spinoff.

Trailer: Conversations that Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take

Conversations that Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take offers thought-provoking perspectives on the issues shaping Aotearoa and te ao whānui. Join host Stacey Morrison as she speaks with Massey University academics and expert guests.

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Equity v equality

For our first episode, Stacey is joined by Massey University Professor Christoph Schumacher (calling in from Heidelberg, Germany) and The Spinoff's Justin Latif to discuss the differences between equality and equity.

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The cannabis question

In this second episode, guest host Leonie Hayden is joined by Massey University Associate Professor Chris Wilkins and Selah Hart, CEO of Hāpai te Hauora.

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What motivates misinformation?

This episode sees Massey University Professor Richard Shaw joined by academic researcher and science communication specialist Dr Jess Berentson-Shaw.

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How can mātauranga Māori shape our future?

On this episode, host Stacey Morrison is joined by Massey University professor Dr Krushil Watene and Alex Hawea of Auckland Council's Southern Initiative.

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Rewriting our approach to mental health

In the final episode of the first season of Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take, we discuss and dissect the way that Aotearoa talks about mental wellbeing.

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Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take is produced in partnership with The Spinoff.